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Journal Entry: Sat Jan 15, 2011, 5:09 PM
:new: Thank you to :iconfanartintegrityclub: and :iconsangheili-zone: for advertising my journal in their clubs for me - it is hugely appreciated! :la:

:new:Thank you to everyone who has contributed, and are continuing to provide me with help on this subject. For anyone who is just reading this though, I'm still very open to your opinions, tips, and anything you have to say :D

To summaries this journal, if anyone (friends and strangers alike) is into comics, manga, fanart, comedy etc, I'd be very grateful if you could tell me about what you know and your opinions on layout choice I have in mind for a fan comic (for once in my life, I actually want to draw it no matter how crappy I am) and style of drawing. I originally wanted to write it as a fan fiction, but this is genuinely the kind of comedy story I can't describe with words - I needs to be something visual, like a comic.

:new: The genre of the fan comic is sci-fi/comdedy.

First thing I'd like to discuss, is the drawing style. I genuinely considered making it a pixel-art sort of comic, but although that sounded really fun it was going to take me far to long and realistically, I'd never get past the introduction because I'd get impatient. So, now it's going to be "drawn" - but I'm still debating on "how". Here's what I want and don't want in the style:

:bulletblue: I want something that is not too time consuming to draw, but not too cartoony to the point of being deformed stick figures. I was thinking maybe a step-up from the Simpsons as an example of the level I was thinking of.
:bulletred: I want to avoid manga styled drawing (but not necessarily layout) as I feel it genuinely would not suit the characters.
:bulletblue: It has to be in colour... this is not an option if I am to include the jokes I have in mind, as much as I love the idea of doing a black and white comic.
:bulletred: Also, as awesome as fully digitally painted realistic looking online comics are, that would also be too time consuming.
:bulletblue: With regards to the lineart, it will all be digital; either spawned from the tablet, or digitally inked images (but likely a mix of both).

So, to help me nut out a style (even though I've chosen the above guides, it's still like trying to choose between cheesecake and mudcake at a bakery), I want to know what you HATE seeing in online fan-comic comedies? Do you hate "chibi" style (or similar Western versions, such as bobble-headed characters)? Do you hate it when the artist puts quantity over general quality? Etc. And, if you have feel like you wanna share more thoughts with me, what do you LOVE to see?

Next topic! Layout.

I want to ask: which layout? I am not sure which one might be most suitable. Here's what I've narrowed my decision down to:

:new: Regarding layout, I'm mostly now focusing on which sized page to use. It'll only be posted on DA, not a website of it's own, page by page.

American Comic size
Japanese Manga Size
Flash Comic (very unlikley at this point in time)

:new: :iconyurizemira: mentioned an important factor I felt I should most certainly add to this journal which could affect layout. The story plot! The story will be driven by plot, but I hope to mix in punch lines too - or at the very least, draw seperate 3-cel-comics which go along with the story for random stuff. Hope that helps build a bigger image of the kind of comic I'm aiming for C:

Here's my thoughts in dot point because I hate large chunks of text:

:bulletorange: The fan comic I have in mind in not for a manga or anime; it's Western, which is why I thought the American Comic size would be suitable.
:bulletorange: Manga sized pages may be better for uploading and viewing online though - but I'm not entirely sure.
:bulletorange: No matter what the layout, it'll be read left to right as Western comics are always written/drawn.
:bulletorange: I want something that I can perhaps think about printing into a book, if I happen to finish a chapter (for personal use only, not for profit. I'd love to send a copy to certain people if I did achieve at least a chapter :D
:bulletorange: I need a size that both allows a decent amount of detail, but not too much so that it takes forever to finish a single page.
:bulletorange: I was possibly thinking about making a flash comic (where you press a button to go to the next image) but it seems a bit too much troublesome for me at this point.

If you have any ideas, or if you have any preferences to what you like to view, I'd love to hear it!

Thank you for reading, I may or may not make another journal if I come to any more cheesecake-or-mudcake kind of choices.

P.S. I'm kinda sick today, have been for a few days, so please don't be offended if I don't reply immediately - I've been feeling the need to sleep and may be taking a nap anytime in the near future.

I'd like to keep the story subject a bit "secret" (mostly because I feel kinda stupid about actually wanting to draw said comic, but also, because I want avoid crapping on about the subject until, for once, I actually POST the first chapter - I've got a horrible tendency to harp on about an exciting project, only to not finish it :paranoid: ) so I won't be divulging that in this journal. I don't think anyone would really care, but if do absolutely have to know because curiosity is in your DNA, just note me, and I'll tell you - honestly though, it's nothing amazing, just something I consider a fun project to practice my drawing skills on.

If anyone actually read this whole journal, you truly deserve a medal! :trophy:

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:iconunirizz:
Many other artists have said those importan comic drawers you should check, like Scott McCloud ( I have his Making Comics book =P) Thats some serious and good book. My advice is- just draw the first page- Yes, just the first one. Five times. And then compare and see what pleases your eyes the most. And please make the comic for yourself. I might be more interesting in that way. Its hard to please all ppl. There is always someone who will not like it. And thats a fact. Do it for yourself and have fun while drawing it!

This is all I can think of now to your problem.
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~saiyan-frost Jan 19, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
There's a good idea - drawing the page 5 times would also allow me to try out styles and and techniques. An effort that would prove fruitful, and worth the time in the long run :D. I'll be looking up to see if any of the books are also availible as ebooks; my library is likely to only have some of the books people have suggested.

That is something I tell my friend (to make art to please youself, not others) - and its a very valid point. I'll work out something which works for me, and if others like it, that'll just be a bonus :lol:. If I stop having fun drawing then I know it's time I ought to rethink what I'm doing; if I draw when I don't want to, it'll just stress me out (not such a good thing to do while at uni).

Thanks for that unique piece of information, it was useful and much appreciated :D
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*Taytonclait Jan 18, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I've always hated super exaggerated responses to in-jokes that make no sense to me. For example, apparently Naruto likes ramen. And there's a girl or something and then someone has a nosebleed and shakes their arms. OK, fine, great, I'll go see what kriswilson has drawn, it will be more entertaining.

what I do like are fart jokes. Lots of them


and beer and waaaugh

if possible
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:iconsaiyan-frost:
~saiyan-frost Jan 19, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Good point; I must admit, although I get most of those kind of naruto jokes and the nose bleed thing (it's also anime related), when I see an in-joke that I don't get, it kinda ruins the piece for me. Fart jokes - now there's something I'm pretty good at :evillaugh:

Thanks for providing your feedback on the subject, much appreciated!
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:icontaytonclait:
*Taytonclait Jan 19, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
mah pleasure!
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:iconunoraptormon:
I don't know much, but what I have learned I know from :iconskyward-dreamer:
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:iconsaiyan-frost:
~saiyan-frost Jan 17, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks you, I'll go check out that person's gallery :meow:
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:iconroluevasvasreisa:
how about Yautja/ Predators and Sangheili/ Elites working together and helping eachother out with daily problems. Like living together and solving daily common problems together? Thats at least my idea hope it helps =)
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:iconsaiyan-frost:
~saiyan-frost Jan 17, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I already have a plot in mind, but thank you anyway ^+^
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